August 14, 2026
Host
Welcome to the show, everyone. Today we're diving into a fascinating and, frankly, a bit of an unusual legal case out of Colorado. It's the kind of story that seems to blur the lines between a traditional pro se lawsuit and something more... unconventional. We've got a small claims court case, a delivery to the state attorney general, and a sweeping federal oversight notification that claims to override the whole thing.
Guest
It's certainly grabbed my attention. When you first sent me the materials, I had to read them twice. It's a mix of standard legal procedure and what looks like a sovereign citizen playbook, but with a unique twist. The website, the notification script, the fine art... it's a lot to unpack.
Host
Right. Let's start with the basics. The case is Young versus El Paso County District Court, a small claims matter. Edward Young is the plaintiff. And it seems things heated up when an assistant attorney general, Lidiana Rios, reached out to him via email. She laid out two motions her office planned to file. One to dismiss the case based on governmental immunity and failure to state a claim, and another to vacate the upcoming trial or at least appear virtually.
Guest
Those are standard pretrial maneuvers. Governmental immunity is a powerful shield for public entities. They're basically saying, 'Even if everything you claim is true, the law doesn't allow us to be sued for this.' And failing to state a claim means the complaint doesn't allege a legally recognizable harm. It's a one-two punch to get the case thrown out early.
Host
But Young didn't just roll over. He documented the FedEx delivery of, presumably, his response to the attorney general's office. Tracking number 875749899626, signed for by someone named E. Ernie. And then he fired off a message, calling the email from the courts 'highly irregular and unorthodox.'
Guest
I see. That's a notable reaction. Defense counsel conferring about motions before filing is routine. It's actually a professional courtesy. So labeling it as 'irregular' suggests Young might be operating under a different set of procedural expectations. He's viewing the court's actions through a lens of administrative misconduct.
Host
And that lens gets much clearer when you look at his 'Federal & State Oversight Notification Script.' This is the core of his counteroffensive. He claims to have activated federal oversight by notifying the DOJ, the FBI, the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, and a host of Colorado agencies. He asserts that three constitutional protections now govern all proceedings involving him.
Guest
Yes, and those three are: a police-verified constitutional protection from a CSPD report, a fraud on the court protection based on alleged judicial contradictions, and the Fourteenth Amendment protection for due process and equal protection. He's weaving a narrative where the state itself has already breached his identity and corrupted the judicial process.
Host
The document then takes a bold leap. It states that all opposition to the August 18th hearing is now subject to the U.S. Constitution, specifically the Fourteenth Amendment, the First Amendment, and the Supremacy Clause. And it claims these constitutional authorities 'supersede all state immunity clauses.'
Guest
Hold on. That's a monumental legal claim. The Supremacy Clause does mean federal law trumps conflicting state law, but it doesn't work as a blanket override of state sovereign immunity. State immunity is itself a constitutional principle, reinforced by the Eleventh Amendment. Simply citing the Fourteenth Amendment doesn't erase a state's immunity; you'd need to show that Congress validly abrogated it, and usually that requires a clear statutory intent.
Host
So, is this typical sovereign citizen talk? You know, the argument that the court has no jurisdiction because they're a 'living man' or something?
Guest
It has elements of that, but it's more sophisticated. He's not just claiming the court lacks jurisdiction over his person; he's trying to bootstrap a federal oversight mechanism by notifying a list of agencies. There's also the mention of a 'willful intent standard.' He argues that because all these agencies now have his evidence, any continuation of adverse action against him constitutes willful intent after notice.
Host
Right. He's essentially saying, 'I've told everyone about the alleged corruption, so if you proceed against me, you're doing it willfully, and that's a violation.' That's a creative argument, but is it legally sound?
Guest
It's not anchored in any recognized legal doctrine. Willful intent usually pertains to intent to commit a specific act, not a constructive notice from a plaintiff to federal agencies. The DOJ or FBI receiving a letter doesn't transform a state court proceeding into a federal civil rights violation. There are procedures for removal to federal court, but this isn't it.
Host
Let's go deeper into the evidence he claims to have. He references a police report, CSPD 2026-09003584, which he says establishes a 'documented breach of identity under state custody.' That's a peculiar phrase. What do you make of it?
Guest
It's hard to know without reading the report, but the phrase 'breach of identity' could mean identity theft, or maybe a police interaction where he felt his identity was misrepresented or misprocessed. He's trying to link that to a constitutional violation. Perhaps he believes the state has misidentified him in a way that affects his legal standing.
Host
Then there's the 'fraud on the court' claim. He points to judicial contradictions dated August 15, 2025 and August 31, 2025. Fraud on the court is a serious accusation, usually requiring a showing of intentional deception that subverts the judicial process.
Guest
Indeed. It's not just a mistake; it's a scheme to defraud the court itself. But he'd need to prove that the court knowingly made false statements that affected the outcome. Judicial contradictions alone could be errors, not fraud. It's a high bar.
Host
And he's not just relying on legal arguments. His website, logicalleverageimpact4life.world, serves as a digital evidence locker. It's divided into sections: Police Report, Fraud on the Courts, Federal Complaints, Proof of Service. There's even a section titled 'Plaintiff True Worth' with award letters and a fine art schedule.
Guest
I saw that. The fine art collection includes pieces like 'Ascension' and 'Collateral Damage.' It's a very unconventional way to present a legal case. It almost feels like part performance art, part spiritual manifesto.
Host
The website also blends a 'Revelation & Discernment Ministry' with a '4-Life Framework'—Leverage, Justice, Common Sense, and Innovation. That's where the organization's name comes from: Leverage Impact 4 Life. It's not just a legal dispute; it's a whole worldview.
Guest
That's important. For many individuals who feel wronged by the system, the legal battle becomes intertwined with personal identity and a sense of mission. The website is a public testament. It's a way to reclaim narrative control. But from a legal standpoint, it's irrelevant to the motions to dismiss. The court won't be swayed by a fine art schedule.
Host
Given all this, what do you think will happen on August 18th? The assistant attorney general has moved to vacate the trial. If the court grants that, the case gets delayed. But Young's notification says any proceeding is outside constitutional compliance.
Guest
I suspect the court will grant the state's motion to vacate and then consider the motion to dismiss. Young's federal oversight notification, while emotionally powerful, is unlikely to have any legal effect. The court will likely view it as a procedural nullity. If the state's motion to dismiss is granted, the case is over unless Young appeals.
Host
But what about the Supremacy Clause argument? He's claiming that federal constitutional rights trump state immunity. Couldn't a federal court step in?
Guest
Federal courts can hear cases involving federal constitutional claims, but only if there's jurisdiction. If Young is raising a constitutional defense to a state court action, he can raise it in the state court. If the state court denies him relief, he could appeal through the state system and eventually petition the U.S. Supreme Court. But a federal district court can't just intervene because he sent a letter to the FBI.
Host
So, the 'notification script' is essentially a form of self-help that doesn't change the legal landscape. It's like sending a cease-and-desist letter to the government.
Guest
Exactly. It's a document that might make him feel empowered, but it doesn't create a legal obligation for the agencies to intervene. The DOJ and FBI have discretion to investigate, but they're not required to take action just because someone claims a constitutional violation. They receive thousands of such complaints.
Host
Let's talk about the human element. Edward Young appears to be a person who feels deeply wronged. He's not a lawyer, but he's spending a lot of effort building this case. What's driving him?
Guest
I think it's a combination of genuine grievance and a distrust of the system. The website mentions cyber-attacks, fabricated conditions, and issues with Verizon and credit bureaus. It sounds like a cascade of events that led him to believe the system is corrupt. When you feel backed into a corner, the sovereign citizen rhetoric can be seductive because it offers a way to fight back with a perceived legal armor.
Host
But the legal system can be alienating, especially for pro se litigants. They're often held to the same standards as lawyers, but they don't have the training.
Guest
Absolutely. And that's where the courtroom can be a harsh place. The state's motion to dismiss will likely argue that Young's complaint fails to state a claim because it doesn't articulate a legally recognized injury. It's a technical pleading deficiency, but to a non-lawyer, it feels like the system is just ignoring their story.
Host
What about the 'failure to state a claim' argument? In small claims court, the pleading standards are relaxed. Could he get past that hurdle?
Guest
Even in small claims, you need to allege a factual basis for recovery. If the defendant is a public entity, you must also overcome immunity. If Young's claims are based on, say, a court clerk's error or a judge's ruling, those might be shielded by absolute immunity. Judges and court personnel have broad immunity for actions taken in their official capacity.
Host
So even if he could prove a mistake, they might be immune.
Guest
Yes, governmental immunity is a tough barrier. It's designed to protect the public purse from an endless stream of litigation. The state's motion to dismiss is almost certainly going to be granted unless Young can articulate a claim that falls within a specific waiver of immunity.
Host
Let's circle back to the website's 'Social Fruit Mapping' and 'Revelation & Discernment Ministry.' It's a unique blend of spirituality and legal activism. How does that fit into this?
Guest
It's like he's building a parallel universe where the legal rules are rewritten by his own theological framework. The '4-Life Framework' might be his way of saying that justice isn't just about statutes; it's about a higher moral order. But courts don't operate on that plane. They're bound by precedent and statute.
Host
And the fine art collection... I mean, 'Collateral Damage' as a piece of evidence? It's almost poetic.
Guest
It is. It's a very human response to trauma, to turn it into art. But the court will likely see it as irrelevant, if not a bit eccentric. It won't help his legal arguments.
Host
What's the biggest risk for Young in all this? I mean, beyond losing the case.
Guest
If he persists in filing frivolous claims or motions, he could face sanctions. The court could find him in contempt or order him to pay the state's attorney fees. The sovereign citizen path often leads to financial ruin. Also, his fixation on the conspiracy might prevent him from finding a legitimate legal remedy if one exists.
Host
So, the irony is that by trying to leverage federal oversight, he might actually be digging himself a deeper hole.
Guest
Yes. The system is not designed to be circumvented by layperson jurisdictional claims. The best advice for someone in his shoes would be to find a lawyer, even just for a consultation, to understand if there's a viable path forward. The website and the notifications are a distraction from the core legal issues.
Host
Let's take a step back. The state's motion to vacate the trial is interesting because they're asking to either cancel the August 18th date or appear remotely. That suggests they're not taking it lightly, even if they think they'll win.
Guest
It's standard procedure. They want the court to decide the dispositive motion before trial, which saves everyone time and resources. If the motion to dismiss is granted, the trial is moot. Appearing remotely is just a practical request, especially for a government attorney.
Host
Young's response to that email was to call it 'highly irregular and unorthodox.' That seems to indicate he believes the court is trying to pull a fast one on him.
Guest
That's a classic sign of the sovereign mindset: the belief that any procedural step by the state is a trick. He's interpreting routine legal correspondence as a violation of due process. It's a deep-seated mistrust.
Host
Now, the FedEx delivery. He made sure to document the tracking and the signature. Why is that significant?
Guest
He's building a paper trail, probably to show that the state received his oversight notification. He wants to prove that they had notice, which feeds into his 'willful intent' argument. It's a common tactic among sovereign citizens: they create a meticulous record of all their correspondences, often sending them via certified mail.
Host
But as we said, notice doesn't create jurisdiction. So all that effort is for nothing?
Guest
Legally, it's likely ineffective. But for him, it's a form of empowerment. He's documenting his version of events. In his mind, this is the evidence that will prove the conspiracy.
Host
Let's talk about the police report again. A 'documented breach of identity under state custody' sounds like something out of a dystopian novel. What could that actually mean in a real-world context?
Guest
It could be a case of mistaken identity during an arrest or citation. Maybe the police entered his information incorrectly, or he was confused with someone else. He might have been detained and released, and the report reflects that his identity was verified. But he's interpreting it as a breach of his constitutional rights.
Host
And the 'fraud on the court' from those judicial contradictions in August 2025. That's a separate incident. He's linking everything together.
Guest
It seems like a pattern. He's collecting everything he perceives as a wrong and framing it as a coordinated attack. The website is the repository for that narrative. The court won't see it as a connected case, but he does.
Host
You mentioned earlier that the sovereign citizen path can be financially ruinous. Has there been any indication of damages in this case? I saw a 'Statement of Damages' section on the site.
Guest
Yes, and a 'Plaintiff True Worth' with award letters. It's unclear if he's seeking monetary damages in the small claims case or if this is part of a larger claim. Small claims courts have limits, typically around $7,500 in Colorado. So he might be dreaming big.
Host
The fine art schedule might be part of his valuation of damages. He could be claiming that his art is worth a lot, and the state's actions have devalued it.
Guest
That's a creative approach, but good luck proving that in court. A fine art schedule is highly subjective. He'd need expert testimony, market analysis, none of which is likely to be admitted in small claims.
Host
We're approaching the end of our time, but I want to ask: if you were advising Edward Young, what would you tell him to do now?
Guest
I'd tell him to put the website aside, put the federal oversight script aside, and focus on the actual legal claims. He needs to decide if he has a viable cause of action against the district court. If he does, he needs to get a lawyer. If he doesn't, he should consider dismissing the case himself to avoid sanctions. The current path is a dead end.
Host
And if he insists on the sovereign citizen approach?
Guest
Then he'll likely lose, and the court might impose costs. He could also end up with a judgment against him. It's a sad outcome, because underneath the eccentricities, there might be a real person with real grievances who just got lost in the rabbit hole.
Host
That's a poignant note to end on. This case is a reminder that the legal system can be both a shield and a maze, and sometimes the people who need it most find themselves at odds with it. We'll keep an eye on the August 18th hearing—if it happens—and see what develops. Thank you for joining us today.
Guest
Thank you for having me. It was a fascinating discussion.